English 3236
Restoration and Eighteenth Century Drama and Theatre
Feedback on feedback
Below are all the comments I received in response to the end of term
feedback questionnaire. I've made a few comments in response, in green.
Making the writing of students a central focus of the course rather
than primarily a means of evaluation:
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I am not entirely sure how i feel about this, because there is little grade
value placed on the writing itself, but rather the fact that it was done,
it leaves quite a bit to be desired in the way of insightful commentary.
It also tends to make the writing incredibly unorganized. [I
wonder if the only motive for making writing organized is to have the instructor
say it's organized?]
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This works the only issue is sometimes it may come down to quantity of
the writing rather than the quality
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I like the idea, but I know the motivation for a lot of students is based
in graded or the threat of low marks. I think all classes should use writing
like this one, but that sadly isn't the case. [I
think so too, of course, but I don't think it's a reason not to do it.
I believe it's an experience worth having.]
Using written prompts to explain and structure what we'll be doing in
and between classes:
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This works and they work best if we run through them as a class
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This helps because if you forget what you are suppose to be doing for the
next class you can always go back to the prompt.
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No huge issue here. Sometimes it can be time consuming to sift through
the paragraphs to get the deadlines, but other than that it's pretty straightforward.
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This is helpful, as there would be absolutely no way to keep up with the
magnitude of things we do at one time without them.
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Sometimes the prompts are unclear. Perhaps doing them in point form so
that they are easier to follow? [This has been suggested
before. Part of the reason I don't is that I think people learn some reading
skills by reading complex text; it's also true that point form simply doesn't
have room for explanation. I try to make clear to you (and to me) why I'm
doing what I'm doing.]
Regular short assignments, usually to be done between one class meeting
and the next:
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Sometimes the short assignments are harder and take more time than I believe
they should which makes it hard to get done right and to focusing work
for other classes. [I'd be happy to have people let
me know when they are taking more time than I've expected. My sense has
been, though, that in many cases people simply haven't made them a priority.]
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This course has some learning strategies that are uncoventional, but this
one, having regular short assignmets, is conventional, I think. In other
classes, you are given homework that is due next class, whether its reading
a chapter of a book or reading a play. [This is interesting
to me; I wonder if it's more true in English than in other classes.]
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This works. I feel like I need to start them earlier than i do.
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These are a great addition to the class. Assignments which are due by class
time the following session are much more manageable then assignments which
are due days (or even a day) before the class is to meet, time is set aside
for assignments due the next day (generally) not usually for classes which
are 2+ days away.
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They work in theory, if we can get into the habit. Sometimes I've considered
programing the learning journal into my cellphone's schedule... I think
I will. [Good idea.]
Moodle Forums and wikis as a way of sharing and discussing information
and ideas:
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I think it works, but it's an odd thing to have a deadline for. Most of
us are used to in person discussions, where the deadline is mostly having
read the material before the class. [If you think
of the forum and wiki postings as material to be read before a class discussion,
it may make more sense?]
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This is great because it is easy to organize and we don;t waste paper.
Can be stressful at first if you are not comfortable with people viewing
your work but it builds your confidence and makes you a better writer.
[This is what I hope, anyway.]
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This is helpful, easiest way to comile info.
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I think that doodle and wiki can be slightly confusing though once I figure
out where the assignment is it's very helpful.
Course Web site to organize work and make information available:
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It works great so long as we check it daily. I know it can get lost in
the shuffle of my other coursework.
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Also helpful.
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I really like the layouts the course website better than the moodle page.
[I've
tried to set it up so that you shouldn't have to use the Moodle page. When
it doesn't work that way, let me know.]
Focusing classroom sessions on student discussion and input:
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I enjoy in class discussion, but I find it doesn't happen that often. And
when it does, most of what we'd have to say is already written and discussions
can feel a bit repetitive then. [It strikes me that
discussions are rarer than I'd like because attendance has been so poor
-- and if discussions are repetitive it's a problem for the people participating.
No?]
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We do this well. Usually we go around the room and each person has a chance
to discuss what they thought.
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I enjoy this portion of the class, it becomes problematic at times because
there are several individuals who simply won't discuss things unless they
are called upon specifically.
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It's hard with such a small class because some of us don't like talking
in class and having such a small class and forcing totals isn't always
fair. [I understand people feeling uncomfortable
talking in class; that's part of the reason I use writing so much. But
it's also something you can get used to, and it seems to me a five-person
class should be a lot easier to practice in.]
Making class meeting times flexible when possible:
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I appreciate it, though it means being on top of my email to know if I
have class or not. But that's not a bad habit to get into.
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Maybe we could schedule a later class. Some people seem to have trouble
making it to the 9:00 class.
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This would be helpful, if we ever did this.
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This is a good option because don't always need the whole class to talk.
Counting work as "done" rather than evaluating assignments and averaging
them toward a grade:
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I'm not incredibly fond of this. But I can see no other way a class which
is structured like this one could function unless the grading was sone
this way.
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This semester I think I am going to embrace this, something which I did
not do last semester. I over thought what I wrote instead of just keeping
to the deadlines.
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I like this, but I don't like the reverse: counting all undone assignments
the same. Yes, the benefit of the doubt is a wonderful thing, but if the
assignments that aren't done because the student couldn't be bothered and
the ones where the student legitimately couldn't do it are treated the
same, then a lazy student will not need to change and the other feels blamed
for their illness or circumstance. [This is something
I've thought a good deal about. I try to assume that people always have
reasons for what they do, and it's not my place to judge. If you'd like
a longer explanation, I've posted one, here.]
Organizing the class around situations in which student choices participate
in shaping the curriculum:
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I have no preference.
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I feel like students are not use to this concept enough to actually be
completely honest about the direction they think the class should go. Usually
a student will always consider the professors ideas before theirs yet I
believe that because this is a full year course people may begin to gain
more confidence in this. I think this survey does show good effort from
the professor.
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I think we should be faster in making decisions about what we are going
to read. [I do too. But people need to participate
in the process actively.]
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A wonderful way to organize and insure the students are interested. [I'm
not convinced it "insures" it, but I do think it promotes it.]
Writing and research assignments whose audience is the other members
of the class:
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It feels more useful, but also a bit clunky. I enjoy helping others learn,
but for those unused to it, I could see it being a learning curve.
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Again, no preference.
Tracking tasks completed to attain a minimum mark:
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It comes down to the student organizing time to complete the tasks.This
is not a great way of marking for those last minute students yet the good
thing is that those students have the learning reflection to save them.
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Good idea though having weird due dates not class time shoulders and be
avoided.
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I like this and I don't. Without something to denote the difference between
a late assignment or one missed for legitimate reasons, it can seem like
an attendance record. [As I've said elsewhere, I've
never felt comfortable deciding whether reasons are "legitimate." I'd rather
assume they all are.]
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as said before, not a fan, but there really isn;t another forseeable option.
Encouraging the keeping of a weekly learning journal:
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Again, awkward until a habit is formed. But an interesting idea.
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Maybe biweekly because sometimes there Just isn't anything to write about
every week. [I think this is partly a matter of being
aware of what you're learning. And if really it's nothing, write that --
it makes it a lot easier to get into the habit of reflecting.]
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Students should be encouraged to write notes in class and then post the
journals immediately after while the discussion is fresh in their heads.
[I
think this would make some sense, but all I can do is say it. People have
to do it.]
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I don't really see the merit in this, other than for several individuals
to apologize for not doing it. It becomes helpful in attempting to remember
what we have already done, but isn't that what moodle and the course website
are for? For a lot of us, the learning journal served to lower our minimum
grade significantly, rather than raise it. [If the
journal is actually reflective, there's a lot of evidence that it can change
the quality of the learning. But if you think of it as recording what you've
done, it's less useful -- though even there there's some advantage when
writing a final learning reflection to have a record.]
Determining grades by giving either a quantitative minimum or an evaluation
of a final learning reflection:
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This works well in theory, but the quantitative can be skewed by circumstance.
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This is a good idea as it includes both types of learners as I mentioned
above.
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I'm fine with having my grade decided by a final learning reflection, provided
that is the ONLY determining factor of my final mark, and things which
made up the minimum grade have no part in it. [I
don't think I understand this.]
Strategies I haven't thought to ask about here that helped you to learn:
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A lot of the fault lies with us students and I'm unsure what you can do
for that.
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Maybe as a class we could talk about how each student organizes the tasks
at hand and schedules them into their everyday life?
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I do not understand the question.
Strategies I haven't thought to ask about here that made learning more
difficult:
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See above.
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Again, I do not understand the question.
Is focusing a course on drama and theatre a useful strategy for learning?
Is it useful to pay attention to considerations beyond the texts, to the
contexts in which they were created?
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Definitely and yes. It's one thing to learn about actresses, and another
to learn they were the first.
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I think so. I mean you need to have a focus to base you finds on or we
would get off track easily.
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Yes.
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To an extent but not necessarily a whole history lesson.
What were the consequences for your learning of organizing the course
around short-term tasks rather than term papers and examinations?
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I need to be more organized and better at scheduling time to do homework
everyday rather than last minute.
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Personally? An injury that might have delayed a paper and one exam, but
it instead set me back for six weeks of nearly daily assignments.
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There are a lot of tiny (easily missed) things which chip away at the grade,
rather than a big final paper which will make or break your whole semester.
Neither of these sound favorable, I am not entirely sure where I stand
in respect to a class such as this one.
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Some times there was just too much work and getting work done for other
classes was compromised.
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no term papers: Leaving things to the last mintue is usually what gets
me in trouble towards the end of a semester. The short-term tasks were
better for me instead of having to do term papers and exams because other
courses probably would have these. Organizing time to do homework can help
in the long run and it is a good habit to have.
If you heard I were offering this course again, and you knew someone
thinking about enrolling, what would you tell her?
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Stay on top of things.
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Have your ducks in a row and keep scheduled. And don't get sick.
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I would be honest, it is a very interesting course but there is a lot of
work that needs to be done. [I've often wondered
about the comparative work load -- I have no way, really, to tell whether
it's heavier in this kind of course.]
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I would tell them that its a different course which may throw you off at
first but after awhile you will establish a routine which makes it easier
and enjoyable.
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