English 1006
Prompt #7
19 September 2013


What's persuasive? And what have we really been persuaded to read?

Working with the forum ratings

We're going to spend some time today discussing the responses to the persuasiveness rating exercise; the aim is to begin reflecting on what kinds of things -- especially written language -- actually affect our decisions.

Reflections on the process

One immediate observation I had as I've read forum postings is that many people seem to be posting the same thing twice, or even three times (in one case, I think, seven times). This is probably a result of the fact that when a forum is configured  this way you can't see responses until you've completed all of them. When the forum is set up this way (they won't all be), let me offer this caution: before you click "Post to Forum" a second time, wait till you've completed all of them and see whether you actually missed one (if you're concerned that you might lose a comment, save it elsewhere and re-post it if it turns out your post really didn't make it). I've gone through and deleted as many duplicates as I could find, but may well have missed some.

Another observation is that quite a number of people seemed not to notice this sentence, from the prompt and the forum itself: "For the ones you rate "very persuasive" indicate in a couple of sentences what you found particularly strong in persuading you that we should read and discuss the article." A "1" all by itself doesn't tell us much. (I've also deleted a few empty "1" postings where the poster explained the choice in a second posting.)

Assessing the forums

I'm going to set up some new groups, and ask each to work with the responses to one of the articles. I'll give each group a couple of copies of a printout of the forum on one of the articles, and ask you to do three things, and fill out the form you'll get:
  1. Count up how many ratings (of 1, 2, and 3) there are for your article (you may need to infer what rating the writer actually intended to give the recommendation, because people didn't always make that clear). Enter the totals on the form.
  2. Identify which of the explanations of why a poster was persuaded actually refer to the recommendation itself . List the names of the writers on the form.
  3. Identify which of the explanations of why a poster was persuaded are about the topic or subject of the article rather than the recommendation. List the names of the writers on the form.
When all the groups have completed that (it should take, I estimate, fifteen minutes or so) we'll go around to each group in turn and identify the comments that actually help us think about what constitutes persuasive writing. And then we'll make some decisions about which one (or possibly two) of the articles we want to read and discuss.

There will be a prompt this evening outlining how we'll do that between now and Tuesday. I'll email the class list when it's up.


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